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Isaac Kolding's avatar

One thing that's interesting to me about these fandom cultures is that they tend to be focused on art (mostly pop music), but the aesthetic value of the music in question doesn't really correlate with the level of devotion. It reminds me of Gustave Flaubert's beautiful short story from 1877, "A Simple Heart." In the story, a lonely servant girl, Félicité, has nobody to love. So she redirects her devotion toward her pet parrot. I won't spoil the ending, but Flaubert shows Félicité beginning to associate the parrot with God, with the Holy Ghost.

When I read this story, I always wonder: is Flaubert making fun of Félicité, this poor lonely soul who has a ridiculous passion for a parrot? Or is he ultimately sympathetic, concluding that Félicité's passion and love for this creature is beautiful, regardless of whether the parrot itself is worthy of that love? Because the ending is so haunting, so deeply felt, I usually go with the second option, but perhaps that's because I'm a sap. We need to love like we need water, so perhaps there is no shame in loving something silly.

To bring it back to fandom: at the same time that I find the trends you write about here kind of upsetting, there's something beautiful and human about the forms of devotion that fans express for, say, One Direction, even when the object of that veneration is so clearly (well, to me, at least) undeserving. Like Félicité and her parrot, there's something both very silly and very sacred about this kind of love. What is clearly bad, as you point out, is the rather heartless harnessing of this sort of thing for the profit motive. If you're OK with long and meandering 3-hours interviews by comedians, you might want to listen to Bo Burnham's 2016 interview with Pete Holmes on the podcast "You Made It Weird." I think he's got some perceptive things to say about this.

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Aaditya Arya's avatar

Reading this piece, I'm reminded of my own experiences with visual art and how I find the act of *viewing* artworks in an art gallery (as a kind of spiritual/aesthetic exercise) to be more fulfilling than fawning/admiring a singular artwork/artist's works. I like how going to a gallery gives you an excuse to look at an object curiously and lovingly (I'm not normally a fan of abstract paintings, but seeing a work in a gallery makes me want to view it as something special...) It's all very silly, but so is stan/fandom culture, in a way.

With that being said, unlike with visual art, I do consider myself a fan of certain musicians and have recently engaged in stan?/fan behaviour. I wanted to support Billie Eilish's new album release, so I bought a t-shirt, vinyl record, as well as tickets for her upcoming tour despite having not heard the album... On one hand, I expect it to be a good listen by virtue of it coming from a talented and experienced artist, but a part of it comes from my admiration of Billie as a person and my desire to support her regardless of the 'objective' quality of her work. I don't think I'm as obsessive about Billie as some other people are, though to Braudy's point I am sometimes envious of stans and what it says about their 'love' for the artist compared to mine. Like, am I 'really' a fan, if I haven't read/watched every interview, seen her documentary or purchased her book???

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